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Posted: Mar. 05 2006,08:35

I'm not ready for an in-depth comparison - yet.  But soon.  Here's some preliminary impressions:

Comfort:  I've been in the Pelican and Kingfisher, know a number of people with the Dorado.  All are quite comfortable, will accomodate you.

Finish:  Dorado's gelcoat is nicer as Kaskazi sprays their gelcoat into the mold, while the King still paints theirs in.  Not a huge difference; both are quality made craft.  OTOH the Kingfisher is more solid, strongest glass kayak I've ever seen.

Note: have been informed that Paddleyak is going to begin spraying their gelcoat, this should make a difference.

Scuppers: are great.  As you'll note from the pics the King really uses venturi-like covers, very quiet, very efficient, work nicely.

Tankwell:  no drainage on either craft.  The Dorado's well is perhaps too big, made to fit a large rectangular storage crate.  The King comes with a smaller, two-level well.  The center portion will hold a proper crate snugly, with some very shallow storage both forward and aft.  



The King's well seems more sensible, will hold significantly less water.  Overall length is about 24 in., center well proper is 10 x 15 in.  Both fore/aft ends are very shallow and slope up to the deck (I believe this promotes a sloshing kind of self-drainage).  OTOH the Dorado's tank is very large and uniformly deeper, with vertical sides.  Whether the larger quantities of water retained will slosh out is questionable, need more info.

Cost:  The Kingfisher will come in at about $1700, but I'm told if a number can be ordered the price may come down some.  Personally I've seen imported glass come in damaged, esp. in mixed containers.

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Edited by Capn Jimbo on Mar. 08 2006,05:06

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Posted: Mar. 05 2006,11:07

Thanks a bunch!  Thats the kind of info I was looking for.
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Posted: Mar. 05 2006,14:48

More nagging questions...

While a lot of your biggest fish (e.g., tarpon) are typically C&R, most of our bigger fish are just plain delicious!  

So I took the TW measurements and compared them to what I normally use and was left scratching my head.  The TW is definitely too small for fish, so that means they would have to go down the center hatch, but its hard to tell if it would really swallow the a big ling or salmon...looks kinda small.  Do you think you could fit a fish bag like the one CFS makes   and a couple of biggish (10-30#) fish down in the center hatch of the King?

Better yet,  What do you think would fit a bigger fish, the center hatch on a Dodo or the King?  A typical dinner stringer around here looks like this.  Nothing huge, but a few larger units in the mix...

Me...



or my buddy Brent at our tourney with a primo load of fish...

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Posted: Mar. 05 2006,17:51

Now that's what I'm talkin bout!!
Scwafish where abouts in Norcal. I used to dive that coast and slay the Lings like you have there...nice pic!!
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Posted: Mar. 05 2006,18:51

This kayak appears to be about the best fit to my idea of a great fishing kayak.  I like the looks of the Dorado but the lack of scuppers combined with the verticle cuts in the cockpit concern me a lot.  I also would rather have a storage area directly in front of me that will fit a full size rod rather than a fish well.  Any chance the guy that is importing the Kaskazis will import the Paddleyak as well ?
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Posted: Mar. 06 2006,08:25

Paladin-I live in Mendocino County.  Those pics are from a little town called Elk.  Me and my wife own a tiny yak dealership, and we host a Tourney there in August.  Good fishing, lots of abalone, and one heck of a party!  Look forward to this year.  

Elk is actually one of the reasons I an interested in a SA yak.  There are a lot of insane spot there, but I am dying to try some that are about 7-8 miles each way.  The water there can get ugly, and there is no other way out besides paddling back to Elk.

Fishing around here is good in all direction though.  Many of my favorite spots are so close to shore you could paddle a dock there. :p

The real issue though is if either of these boats will have enough room for a load of Nor Cal alligators.
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Posted: Mar. 06 2006,10:30

Hey SC... all I can tell you is that the center hatch is nice and wide - bout 8 inches - and gives you modestly safe access to the Kingfisher's huge volume.  The hatch just behind the cockpit is 8 in., the front hatch is 12 in.

But these latter of course should never really be opened at sea (yes, I know they are).  The center hatch is a safer option.  The Dorado is perhaps even safer, esp. in really bad weather, as the worst you'll do is to fill the fish compartment.

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Posted: Mar. 07 2006,16:44

Okeedokee.  Which center hatch do you think will snarf a bigger fishy?
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Posted: Mar. 25 2006,07:52

Anymore feedback on this yak?  Still drooling!
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Posted: Mar. 25 2006,12:28

In answer and as a rough comparison:

[Comfort: is a relative thing, I'm comfy in yaks that Chef Mike's back won't handle.   Altho I'm tempted to say equal, I want a fresh ride in the Dorado.  But the King is quite comfortable.

Fit/finish: yes, they both have one, lol.  Dorado has a better finish but this will change as Paddleyak is going to a sprayed (not brushed) on gelcoat in the molds.  Fit seems equal to me.

6'1" x 210 lb:  You have a nice waterline, but I'm not sure about your beam.  No worries at all in the Kingfisher.

Scuppers: With the scupper hoods, these are really more venturis with LOTS of capacity.  Better yet, quiet and don't seem to produce nearly the turbulence of ordinary scuppers.

Tankwell: Center section is rectangular, 10" wide x 15 " long x 4.75" deep; outer well is 12" wide x 25" long x 2" deep, rounded.  The outer well tapers right up to the deck.  This is a clever idea!  Even without drains the normal movement of the kayak will cause water to easily slosh up and... out.

This is a fine design and made to order.  You can specify a lighter build (like vacumn bagging, etc., bring it down into the middle 50's) and the manufacturer is open to suggestions and customization.  

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