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Posted: Dec. 11 2004,15:06

Okay, really quiet in this forum. That's partially my fault as I have to admit...I've been using my spinning rod. I've fallen in love with storm wildeyes. I beg your forgiveness. Those things just catch fish. I'm working on going back to my flyrod!

To keep this on fly-related topics...Anybody know a good pattern that would imitate a storm wildeye?

Ken :D
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Posted: Dec. 12 2004,05:01

Hello folks.Nice to see the forum back up and running strong again.I hope the holiday season finds everyone well.
Ken ,I haven't been out since fishing the San Juan in Sept.A sore wrist and work have pretty well put the kabosh on fishing for me .
However! Plans are being made to fish the E.C. area some time in the next couple of weeks.
I'll pass a report along when I get back
Dave
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Posted: Dec. 13 2004,20:53

Sorry to hear about the wrist (and work). Good luck on your trip.

If y'all are really nice I'll tell you about my "learning experience" with the gheenoe in St. Lucie last week! :D
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Posted: Dec. 13 2004,21:06

OK Fly (and welcome back).  Two things.

(a) I wanna hear bout the Gheenoe, and
(b) After several hundreds of flycasts over several months I'm beginning to think I've been cursed.   Although I'm feelin pretty good bout my casting (and shooting) I'm mystified bout my absence, yes absence of catching.

Now Art mentioned it's probably my retrieve, which is certainly possible.  Altho I think I'm going slowly enough, it's fair to say I'm a  spinning guy and perhaps my stripping is still way too fast.

What say you?  Why am I cursed?

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Posted: Dec. 15 2004,10:32

Hey Jimbo,

Okay, in reverse order:

b) Could be retreive. Could also be fish. Are there fish where you've been fishing? That often seems to be my problem. If so, can you see the fish? Watching how the fish react to your fly helps if you can arrange it. Look for ponds with bream, cichlids, bass or peacocks that you can see. Then you can get a feel for how your fly swims and how the fish take it. It varies, sometimes a fast strip seems to be all that works; some days slow and bouncing on the bottom. You just have to play around. If you're in saltwater try and find a school of jacks. Conditions like the day we hit Rattlesnake would be perfect for it: a willing & stationary school  of jacks.

a) the gheenoe...well I took the gheenoe out for it's first real fishing trip. We drove up to St. Lucie & put in at sandsprit park. Started working the flats & channel just north of there. Some boat traffic but everything was alright. We decided to run over to the sailfish flats (didn't look that far on the chart!). As soon as we turn north in to the IR the wind & waves kick way up and we get soaked. Probably ran about a mile north and decided it was to rough, time to go back to the protected canals. Cross the sandbar, run south in the side channel and WHAM! Nail a sandbar. Many things happened at this point...the motor cuts out...the boat stops...I notice we've taken a lot of water from the waves...the boat is really squirrely...we tilt sideways...i fall out. Unfortunatelly my ugly stik was in the vertical rod holder to my side...no more ugly stik. Fortunately we were on firm sand in 6 inches of water. One amazing  point, as full as the boat was with water, plus me, my friend, gear and the motor, it was still floating, that's why it tipped, it was off balance due to the water. So now what do we do. The only things we had at our disposal to bail with were the bait bucket and the glad sandwich container holding the pbj's my wife packed. Dump the shrimp into the gheenoe, take out the sandwiches and get to work. Bailing only took about 20 minutes.

We get back in, paddle and use the trolling motor off of the sandbar, get back into the channel and get the outboard going. Figured out that going slowly over the ways works a lot better than being on plane. Now the fun part, we have to go through the channel crossroads to get back to the canal. The waves are now behind us and bigger. I get to experience the joy of running a shallow water boat through 2-3 ft rollers while not letting (many) of them come in over the transom. While working sideways. It's scary but going pretty well, until I hit another sandbar! Trolling motor gets us onto the sandbar where we're somewhat protected from the swells and into a calmer spot where the outboard shoots us across the channel. Due another (smaller) bailing and fish. Caught a nice jack on a 3" redfish tsunami. Learned a lot. The gheenoe is a tough little boat and versatile. It has a tough outboard, works well with a trolling motor, a push pole and a paddle.

To make this fly fishing relevant, I did have my fly rod but the wind was brutal so it mostly stayed in the rod holder.

Important points: we lived and it was a good thing we hit the first sandbar. Running those rollers with the water in the boat would have been bad. So, in summary, Lord, thank you for having me hit the sandbar!

Ken
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Posted: Dec. 15 2004,13:15

Ken
Wow that story makes me love my Yak even more!!


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Posted: Dec. 15 2004,18:21

Yup, it was pretty interesting. Quite different when you actually have to pay attention to the waves rolling over the stern. Definitely advantages & disadvantages & two different types of uses.
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Posted: Dec. 16 2004,16:14

Ken;Love the story about the Gheenoe ......Been there.It's really a great little boat,just gotta keep an eye out to the weather and sea.

Jimbo:I;m curious about the flies that you are using.Remember that the line hand does most of the work but contrary to what some people say its ok to use a little tip action also when retrieving.Try to FISH the flies the same as you would with jigs,plugs or top water Hope this helps

Just my .02 cents

Dave
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Posted: Dec. 16 2004,19:03

Thanks Dave,

Yup, the whole ordeal actually made me even more impressed with the gheenoe, it floated and it was pretty full of water, 2 people (one big, yup me), gear & the outboard. And we were in 6 - 8 inches of water.

Good point on the flies; I've never "broken" myself of the rod tip movement.

Ken
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Posted: Sep. 08 2005,05:28

Some thoughts on retrieves that might help. Vary the speed of the retrieve in relation to the speed of the current. If the current is really moving, use a dead drift. If the current is slow, the use a faster retrieve. If slack, cast a popper- it will give your mind something to think about as you go fishless :), although sometimes a popper will make something move even in the slack between tides.

I think considering retrieve speed in relation with current speed will improve the catch ratio.

Regards, rollcast
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