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Posted: Aug. 01 2005,13:16

Well here we are in the middle of 'caine season, which is a good time to think about storm shutters and home improvements.  And in the instant case, with how to continue making this forum better.

On the positive side the 3rd Yak-In was awesome - we were on track for 50-60 attendees, and still had over 30 despite Dennis' attempt to kill our momentum.  We had a super day with a truly great bunch of yakkers, not the least of which was Kayak Willie.  What a day!

And the forum has grown too - dramatically - setting new records each of the last 3 months.  In July: over 126,000 hits, by over 1700 different yakkers.  Those are good numbers.

But on the negative side we still face the same old bugaboo that haunts all growing websites.  It's Takers.  The lurkers that return day after day - 126,000 times every month actually - to rip off and benefit from the posts of the relatively few who post some really great stuff:

The Givers.  God bless you guys and gals! We all know who you are.  Those who take the time to share knowledge and expertise, who read and answer posts and questions of others. The people who truly make this a community.  Thanks... it is all of you who make all the effort worthwhile.

I don't like Takers.  I really don't.  Now I could password protect the whole site, but this would keep out potential Givers.  Not a good idea.  But I recently received a suggestion...

An inner sanctum.  A section for Givers and, yup, password protected.  A place where the few who've earned the right can share special hotspots, ideas and opportunities - no Takers allowed.  A private clubhouse.  Hmm.  How bout:

Capn Jimbo's Clubhouse!  A reward for members of distinction - who've participated and earned the right.  Good idea or bad?  

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Edited by Capn Jimbo on Aug. 01 2005,13:17

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Kodiaz Offline
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Posted: Aug. 01 2005,16:41

real good idea id hate to put a good spot here only to have it overrun run by savvy boaters(a good example of good free info is the palm beach county reef research website they even count the fish for you)
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RDS Offline
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Posted: Aug. 01 2005,17:47

I don't think it's such a great idea. As the forum gets better indexed on the internet you get a lot of people drifting in for 1 or 2 visits, then never visit the forum again. For those who actually like the content, it may require several browsing sessions before they decide to contribute. Hiding parts of the forum, which would probably be livelier than the open parts, wouldn't encourage more people to register. Furthermore, since Jimbo is the only one who actually looks at the site statistics, the rest of us aren't even aware of the lurkers.

Think of the forum as a big online store in which a lot of people will shop, most won't buy anything, but a certain percentage always will. Getting a lot of lurkers is just a marker of your success.

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Posted: Aug. 01 2005,18:12

hmmmm.... a very  intriguing idea mon capitain.

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Posted: Aug. 01 2005,18:44

I'm a DNFW guy. You have a good thing going for yakkers. Your individual panels separate areas of interest. But, in the end, it's your baby, Jimbo. :cool:
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Posted: Aug. 02 2005,10:32

I think it's a good idea. A place where participating members can share ideas and good fishing spots with other people who are willing to participate. :D
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Posted: Aug. 02 2005,14:22

I kind of go with what RDS posted.  I'm not sure how lurkers really hurt us and if we keep the juicy stuff away from them they may never sign up.

I visit other forums and often give a link to this site so they can learn more about a certain kayak, because this is by far the best sight for good kayak reviews.  Some of them, at least two that I know of signed up as members after they saw what FLYC has to offer.

I would imagine most of the 1700 lurked for awhile before joining.

Just my thoughts.
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Posted: Aug. 02 2005,16:21

Thanks for the input so far.  When I received this suggestion, at first I thought no way.  But then I realized that there were some really choice spots that would be ruined by general publication.  I also felt that the givers oughta be rewarded, and that lurkers might need some reason to truly participate.

You know the old saying:  if you get the milk for free...

Let's face it, the success of this forum is a direct result of those who post, and I'm beginning to feel these great folks should be rewarded in some fashion.

Juries still out... more opinions please...

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Scupper Pro Frank Offline
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Posted: Aug. 02 2005,18:35

I DON'T KNOW, JIM -I GUESS I'M WITH DON & RDS ON THIS ONE...

I contribute about as much as anyone on this board, and I don't really feel like a "giver" -or better yet, I don't feel like I'm being "taken advanatge of" by a group of lurkers, or as you say, 'takers'...

I guess I just don't see them as 'takers' in a negative sense -they're visitors in my book, and good for them, and good for the site.  Visitors mean hits, and that's good, whether or not they stick around and join us or not.

And don't forget, too, that there are many out there in cyberspace who've learned not to trust many aspects of the web, and who don't want to get as involved as we'd like them to in becoming a part of our little community.  They are fearful of giving out personal informatiom, fearful of revealing themselves, fearful of rapidlyescalating identity theft perhaps, fearful of repercussions should one of us FLYC-ers turn out to not be the nice yakanglers we outwardly seem to be...

I mean, look at some of the boards we all know -even when folks do ID themselves, in many cases it's not real helpful -as in, where do you live?  "Florida".  Where do you like to paddle? "North Carolina"...  Just goes to illustrate a reluctance to share possibly sensitive info, which also sort of can been seen as leading to a 'read but don't get involved' perspective...

So I guess what I'm saying is I don't think your clubhouse will honestly serve much of a purpose, Jim, oher than maybe becoming an extended personal message center for those of us in on the secret handshake.

If someone wants to read something I wrote -let'em!  If they get something good or useful 0r just plain enjoyable out of something I wrote, good for them!  And I feel good about it -well, even more to the point, I do NOT feel BAD about it -as well, even if not told...

But as someone else noted -it's more or less your board as chief cook, bottle washer, and The Godfisher & Board Administrator .  

That said, thanks for asking for our input!

I truly think it's a fine
place just the way it is.

It's a great site to spend time and swap lies and tell tall tales and give -and yes, get! -good information to help us all do better as we


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Posted: Aug. 03 2005,17:44

I have been to a few events from other sights.I always ask about FLYFC and they say they have logged on.The only problem they say is that is there are not enough posts and then there are not enough post about fishing.YAKFISHING is why they log on.That is why I logged on unfortunetly some would say.The best thing I have have taken from this sight was learning Choco enough to find my way back to the ramp.Choco has everything,gulf,canals mangroves and oyster reefs.Thanks to capt wrights picnic which 4 people from this sight made it.I think the person from this sight that has the most yakfishin heart is a girl  and that is fishhunter.SHE was the last one in fished to the last minute.Anyway you have to make someone feel comfortable to post.Talk about what they log on for.If you want to keep it between multiple posters then it will be lonely
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