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Posted: Jan. 31 2007,21:25

Yup, at long last I got my hot hands on this coolest of performers:



Can you believe this is plastic?  Can you believe it's 14' x 26" x just 45 lb?  Can you believe it's an SOT?  With a tankwell? Can you believe it lists at only $579?  Can you believe...

It's here!

I've been droolin over this kayak for many months and never thought I'd see one.  Thought it was quite enough that RTM - THE company to watch - had brought back the new and improved Scupper Pro as the "Tempo".

Then I saw the Disco.  Lighter, faster, quieter, sleeker and less expensive.  It was... orgasmic!  A big thanks to Kayak Jeff of, uh, Kayak Jeff on Dania Beach Blvd (that's in Dania Beach, bozos, lol) for his terrific hospitality and for allowing me an extended time with the Disco.

This is one awesome design.  Is it the Pro killer I knew must surely come one day?  Read the review to find out...

The RTM Disco Review

:capn:

ps. In case you're interested in the "Tempo"/Pro:
Preview: The RTM Tempo/Pro


Edited by Capn Jimbo on Feb. 01 2007,05:05

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Posted: Feb. 01 2007,00:27

Thanks Capn. I have been really excited about the Disco but being completely inexperienced did not know if this was justified. Also asking others for advice has not been too helpful as very few people are able to see past their own favorite and view this yak objectively. Now I can buy one without hesitation.
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Posted: Feb. 02 2007,08:41

Great review, Jimbo! I may have finally found a reason to sell my Spike. I weight about 165 at my heaviest, so most of the recent OK and WS designs are far too big and clunky for me to enjoy. I still like my Phoenix 140 for Texas conditions (I know you and I disagree on that); but as a summer boat (something other than 35 degrees and/or ice storms!), and for my petite wife to play in, the Disco may be perfect.

I'll have to watch and see if any dealer in Texas picks up on RTM's boats...maybe a few inquiries would motivate them.
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Posted: Feb. 02 2007,13:06

THANKS, JIM -NICE WORK

The Disco review is a good one.  Unfortunately, at 203 +/3#, I'm apparently stretching the decent handling & performance weight capacity limit of this boat-and that's just me, sans gear...  Gawd, what'd happen if I had my fishing gear, along with a cooler, plus the ditty bag of good digicam, keys, cigars and cigar gear, and some ancillary stuff -and then caught a 25# mutton snapper...?

Who cares?  I'd've caught a 25# mutton, LOL!

Seriously, it's too bad about what you observed about the limiting weight capacity.  Despite that, tho', I'd still think I'd like to give one a bit of an extensive spin and see how well it runs.

One thing you didn't comment on was the actual construction -namely, the plastic and its probable rigidity and wearability/durability...  You feel that it's as good as the early OK designs, like our Scuppers and Scrambler (since given to my son to use for fishing)?

About the only drawbacks I can tell from your review and the specs, sans a run myself, is that it's only 14' long -I'd've loved to have seen something in the 16' range -and that weight vs. performance tradeoff.

Other than that, for the medium & smaller paddlers, it has the look and feel of a potentially premium SOT to


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Posted: Feb. 02 2007,17:03

Good questions Frank.  The RTM quality is better than the old Pro/Scrambler.  The Disco, like the Pro/Tempo has plenty of complex curves (plus a couple stiffening slots on the hull) and accordingly is as solid, strong and rigid as the old Pro.

After writing this review I am having second thoughts bout the weight capacity (particularly after a recent paddle with Charlie the skin-on-frame builder).  Greenland yaks were famous for their low profile and windage.

I think the Disco may be the same.  Even at my 190 including gear I still had reasonable freeboard, more than most SOF's.  I do think at heavier wts there will be a bit more water in the footwells, but this is really meaningless.  I also found one unconfirmed citation for a capacity of 286 lb (will keep checking on this).

If so, the Disco may accommodate yakkers up to say 225 lb (plus a bit of gear).

Accordingly I'm planning to do another test with Kayak Jeff who clocks in at about 220, see what happens...

:capn:

ps...oops... bout speed, the Disco will surprise you.  It's faster than any plastic 14 I know of, definitely faster than the Pro.  This kayak will have no problems cruising (not racing) with the big un's.


Edited by Capn Jimbo on Feb. 02 2007,17:11

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Posted: Feb. 02 2007,19:15

Damit Jim you've done it again..... :D

Was standing talking to Kayak Jeff this afternoon, and while there he recieved a couple of calls regarding the Disco. He said all of a sudden people are calling regarding that model...I laughed and made him bring up your site with the review.

Looks like you've put poor Jeff in a good and bad position...one yak left and people wanting it.

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Posted: Feb. 02 2007,20:37

You keep your hands (and yer butt) off my Disco!!!

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Posted: Feb. 03 2007,09:48

Those in the Healthy-Portion-With-Curves category are decidedly out of luck then??
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Posted: Feb. 03 2007,18:05

ONE THING, JIM...

I don't think it's C'e Manufique!...

It's "C'est magnifique!", I do believe...

In the long run of things, Alors, n'import de quoi I think is how it goes...

At any rate, we're looking for further feedback on this late, great WS Freedom SOT quasi-lookalike (even the coloration reminds one of the lamented, lost Freedom), which Sally & I turned down in favor of Sally's raspberry red (it is notPINK...!) Scupper Classic a decade or so ago -and we've not regretted our choice since.

Just do us a favor, OK?  Get a better color than that 'lemonade-limeade with a bit 'o blue so let's split the difference and call it chartreuse' scheme the current tester bears before you invest in one to more frequently use to


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Posted: Feb. 04 2007,06:38

I went to check this boat out (and the store too). They are indeed great people. It was too late to paddle, so I'll have to go back...
The Disco does look interesting and has nice lines; I actually fit... but There is no 'console'. What are your ideas on How it would be rigged for kayakfishing?? Jimbo, Do you see angling possibilities or is it just for cruising?
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