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Posted: June 24 2007,06:20

Answer.. condoms just big enough for Camels.

But seriously folks ..... I have a lot of questions. I'll try to keep the list short on this post.

1. Do you really need a bilge pump in an SOT? (Inland waters) ... specifically my Mojo where the only hull access is in the bow. The hatch would be quite hard to reach without swimming.

2. Is it advisable to stick a pole thru the scuppers for a shallow water anchor? I have 1.5 lb anchor rig that works great but all that line is a pain.

3. (Don't freakin' laugh) Should I listen to the voices in my head and carry something other than a paddle to ward off predators? (sharks, crocs, gators, telemarketers, etc;)

4. Do you guys get any use out of fishfinders Inland?

5. Would you guys be kind enough to post pictures, descriptions of your effective lures, lines, leaders and hooks? (and what they're used for) I have no clue. I read some of the posts but there are so many abbr's and slang terms ... I confuse easily.

Oh, I'm sorry I made fun of the guy with the bicycle.

Thank you, I'll be here all week.

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Posted: June 25 2007,14:06

I used to have a cheap fish finder but  it didn't last long. I used it along the intercoastal from Dania bridge to the CoastGuard station on the east side of the channel.  I would find the drop off it was like a wall in some places ,you could see schools of fish aginst the wall.  I used a chicken rig with shrimp and useually caught some interesting fish as close to the wall as possible.

 Some times they would be schools of mangos ,a few small goliaths, strange fish I have never seen.Big jacks that would catch the attention of passing boaters, wondering what is bending your rod so much.

That is why I miss my fish finder
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Posted: June 25 2007,15:14

1. Do you really need a bilge pump in an SOT? (Inland waters) ... specifically my Mojo where the only hull access is in the bow. The hatch would be quite hard to reach without swimming.

Probably not, but if you have the time and expertise to install one, well... OTOH if you carry about 5 pool noodles in the hatches, balanced bow and stern you will at least have flotation.

2. Is it advisable to stick a pole thru the scuppers for a shallow water anchor? I have 1.5 lb anchor rig that works great but all that line is a pain.

Sure, it works great.  In our cases, Sue Sea and I both carry five foot flats "stakes" - simply a piece of 1/2 inch PVC, glue on a "T" fitting on one end, cut the other end at an angle (for penetration).  Loop a 1/4 inch line, also about 5 ft through the T, attach a clip at the other end, clip about midship, within easy reach.  

The stake is stored under a bungie strung across the front hatch, can also be towed if you change position often.  Just grab the "Tee", and jam it into a soft spot - they hold pretty well, but don't leave the kayak.  If you do decide to wade, clip a five foot rope to your belt and tow the yak.  Much safer.

3. (Don't freakin' laugh) Should I listen to the voices in my head and carry something other than a paddle to ward off predators? (sharks, crocs, gators, telemarketers, etc;)

Body parts from your ex-wife work wonderfully well to distract gators.

4. Do you guys get any use out of fishfinders Inland?

See above.  Critter is the man.  Pay close attention to anything he posts.

5. Would you guys be kind enough to post pictures, descriptions of your effective lures, lines, leaders and hooks? (and what they're used for) I have no clue. I read some of the posts but there are so many abbr's and slang terms ... I confuse easily.

There is no good answer as there are as many recommendations as yakfishers.  But from an artificials standpoint I'd recommend the following as a decent small collection to take to sea:  topwater like a Zara Spook, maybe also a Chug Bug (mullet patterns), nice boathead or slider jigs (3/8 oz, white or yellow bucktail, also a nice bare chartreuse jig with some chartreuse sparkly grub/curly tails), chartreuse tube lure.  All these will fit in a small ziplock.

Also cut and coil a couple extra leaders.  Learn to double your line with a Spider Hitch, attach to leader with a no-name knot, and tie the lure on with the famous Capt Mel loop knot.

YMMV



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Posted: June 25 2007,17:54

If you use braid no need to double , join to leader with a triple surgeon.

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Posted: June 25 2007,20:37

YOU, GHOTI-HEAD:

Oh, Ghoti-head, before I forget, BTW:

GH pronounced as in ENOUGH
O   pronounced as in WOMEN
TI  pronounced as in APPELLATION


1. Do you really need a bilge pump in an SOT? (Inland waters) ... specifically my Mojo where the only hull access is in the bow. The hatch would be quite hard to reach without swimming.

Nah...  As Jim sez, not much need in most cases, pool noodles if you're worried, more than five, cut to fit if you're REALLY worried, and no! -just throw each leg over the side, scoot down, unhook the hatch, and start pumping away.  Don't need to go swimming at all in most cases...


2. Is it advisable to stick a pole thru the scuppers for a shallow water anchor? I have 1.5 lb anchor rig that works great but all that line is a pain.

For shallow water, sure!  But you have to find a pole/stick that's both be strong enough and narrow enough to fit through the scupper and hold the boat fast.  

Furthermore, if it's "there" more or less at/in the boat, and it's sticking up, it might be in the way of working your rod -rigging it, changing leader/lures, fighting fish, maybe even casting...

So think about the approach Jim (and many of us) use & recommend: a pole with a leader.  You can attach it midships, or at bow or stern, the latter depending on how shallow it is, what the bottom conditions are, and whether you're comfortable hopping on & off to plant/retrieve it if you can't shimmy out to the bow or stern to do it from the boat.

BTW, that 1.5# anchor is OK, but those skinny flukes may/may not hold well on some bottoms, not good news when the current is up and pushing you into the mangrove shoreline where bugs wait to pounce on you and the trees wait to pounce on waywardly thrown lures...  I think you might want to conside the larger one with larger flukes.  They're no fluke.  I went from a 1.5 to what?  A 5-pounder?  Works a lot better!

And as for "all that line"...?  Get yourself an extra-large Cuban Yo-Yo and use that for holding your anchor line.  Works real well...


3. (Don't freakin' laugh) Should I listen to the voices in my head and carry something other than a paddle to ward off predators? (sharks, crocs, gators, telemarketers, etc;)

Well, let's see...  

First, the "etc; should be written as etc.;...

Second, sure!

a) Bang stick on a 10' pole.  Most sharks wouldn't touch that with a ten-foot pole.  Or a ten-foot Pole.  But a ten-foot pole wouldn't either; after retiring from the NBA and the International Track Federation, he'd use a 20-foot pole... similarly rigged.

Oh, sorry, I forgot.  Bang sticks are now illegal.

Sharks, on the other hand, are not...

Sorry...


b) If you actually really and truly for goodness sake honest-to-goodness see one worth running from, first get on the cell and call Fish & Game, WWF, & Metrozoo, then Channels 4, 6, 10, but mainly 7.  If you survive, the real nature lover guys'll probably make you a hero after they debrief you on the what/where/when/why/how, including time-or-day, declension-or-the-sun, air temp, water temp, and the temp of what you did to yourself, while the media'll have a bidding war to find out the where and can we do it again and can we take a pitcher of ya with it...

OTOH, my wife Sally actually WEARS crocs.  SO whatsamattah you?

c) Let's see -a handle-tightening wire noose on a ten-foot pole.  In a kayak, that's good for gators up to three, maybe 4 feet long.  After that, a 10-ga over & under with a 6-to-10-shot magazine loader and solid ("elephant") loads might work...

d) Hmmm...  Now THAT'S a TOUGH one!  Well, let's see...  I guess there's several approaches.  

a) One is an answering machine with a really long and boring message about how you can't come to the phone right now, you'd really like to, but you're indisposed (which really means you're in de bathroom) or in the back yard or in Vegas but you can't tell anyone that 'cause even if "it", whatever "it" is, stays there, it still means you're there too so if it's a robber calling to see if you (or anyone else, most likely) is there and casing the place they now know now's a pretty opportune time to make a right nice and friendly visit and see about performing an inventory for you, but at any rate it just goes on and on it'll make most telemarketers just give it up because they don't want to waste time like you're oh-so-delightfully doing; or maybe

b) An answering machine with even a short, too-the-point, but still boring message (We can't come to the phome right now, but if you leave you name, number, measurements, bank account number, next-of-kin's number, and a short -VERY short! -message, we'll get back to you just as soon as we (check out the data and status of the caller and determine whether they're scum or really worth our while to) get back to you as soon as we can!, because most telemarketers for the most part want live bodies and not dead boxes and ALSO don't usually want to leave a message; or perhaps

c) An answering machine with absolutely ANY message at all, which you ALWAYS listen to because you NEVER actually personally really in person pick up the phone at ANY time, instead screening calls as they come in.  Your friends, after the first tow or three dozen tries will actually (in many cases -yes, it's true! I've witnessed this very phenomenon myself, once!) begin to catch on, and let you know they know the game by saying, C'Mon, You-GHOTI!  Pick up the DANM PHONE ALREADY!!!  I KNOW YOU"RE THERE!  ANSWER THE (*%UY^&ING PHONE!!!  So it's a win-win situation!

d) AH-HA!!! Put your number on a national "do not call" list That'll get at least 25-35% of them off your phone and back...

e) Give up your phone  Simple.  Elegant.  Effective.  Efficient.  Easy.  "Boy George, I think oy've gawtit!


4. Do you guys get any use out of fishfinders Inland?]

Heck yes!  Most guides, by the day or half-day, are worth it.  Bass, crappies, specs, sometimes trout & tarpon and snook, depending on how far inland, all usually fall prey to these good fishfinders...


5. Would you guys be kind enough to post pictures, descriptions of your effective lures, lines, leaders and hooks? (and what they're used for) I have no clue. I read some of the posts but there are so many abbr's and slang terms ... I confuse easily.

What's an "abbr.?

Saaay... you use that stuff?  Oh wow!  Maybe THAT'S what I was doin' rong...!!!

And condoms for your Camels...?  Then what the heck am I spozed to use for my B olivar Churchills and El Rey Del Mundo Torpedoes...???

Actually, I use a baggie or cigar bag for 3 or 4 cigars inside another baggie with a damp paper towel in it, the latter then placed inside a  dry bag.  The dry bag keeps whatever its contents are significantly dryer than the water they're surrounded by, and first baggie with the damp towel acts as a temporary poor man's humidifier on the water, and the inner the cigar bag and/or baggie prevents condensation from directly wetting my cigars.

Well, You-GHOTI, hope this helped.  As you can see, we're a very table font or fount of ammunition or information, whatever, here, y'know.  At least we have fun even when we don't


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Posted: June 26 2007,06:07

critterdog, Capn Jimbo, Paladin and uh Scupper Pro Frank thank you for the input. I checked out some of the rig suggestions and actually found pictures of Zara Spooks and chicken rigs on-line. You may not think your info is that big a deal but it is really helpful to me.

As far as fish finders go ... anyone have a specific brand/model in the portable variety they like?

Capn Jimbo .. in your reply about carrying extra weaponry I sensed that you may have been wronged in the past but I feel your pain.

Scupper Pro Frank ..... what the freak is a Cuban Yo Yo. ... also, if I could spell and or punctuate I would not be associated with this forum.

Anyone else want to "wade" in? .... clever huh?

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Posted: June 26 2007,13:40

Hey, I asked this Cuban fisher guy at work about the Cuban Yo-Yo. He not only explained the device in great detail, he also offered to bring me one from his collection. He then went on and on about his happy boyhood days using his Yo - Yo to catch fish called mojitos or something like that.

Also .. Scupper Pro Frank .. you are not the cunning linguist you pretend to be. I have pasted a line from your response below. How often do you tow your friends?

"Your friends, after the first tow or three dozen tries will actually (in many cases -yes, it's true! I've witnessed this very phenomenon myself, once!) begin to catch on..."

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Posted: June 27 2007,04:44

You have clearly made the error of taking Frank a bit too seriously.

Throughout his capitalization, color changes, font sizing, plays on words, and words on play is a smashing sense of humor - not to mention some darn good information.

And after tow or more mojitos, who cares anyway... btw, Frank's notion of a big Cuban YoYo for your anchor line is a super idea, do they come in family economy size?  


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Posted: June 27 2007,06:37

My Cuban compadre made good on his promise and I have a large Yo - Yo in my possesion. It will do the job nicely.

I think Frank has a wonderful sense of humor and he certainly gives good uh, advice. I'm just funnin and I would never take him seriously.

But here's an idea for a new Kayak sport I've been toying with "Yak Jousting with Pool Noodles".
Maybe Frank could come up with the rules ... I'm just an idea man.

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Posted: June 27 2007,20:52

YAKJOUSTING WITH NOODLES RULE 1

But first, a word from our sponsor...

"Yes, SPF has indeed towed friends.  Sometimes in a kayak, even, and occasionally, infrequently, every so often for the good, sometimes...  ...and sometimes (alas, more often than not), he just can't seem to make headway.  That's why some call him Under Toad.

"SPF has been known to be cisylsed; not an explanation, you understand, but rather, an excuse.

"SPF claims no title such as 'cunning linguist'; in truth, he's usually tongue-tied.  Also, alas, FAR more often than not, keyboard tied... "

And now, a word TO "our sponsor"...

Jim -I use a 'regular large size' for my anchor line, but yes, they sure do come in far larger sizes.  Forgot where I got mine, went with a midsize yo-yo from the selection on hand, but I really should've gotten the significantly larger one.  

And now, back to the show...

1) The pool noodle must be the noodle, the whole noodle, and (most importantly) nothing but the noodle; no hiding sawed-off Johnson bars in the hollow, nor any other rigid, strong, heavy-duty bars of any material, either!

That'll take a lot -a LOT! -of the sting! out of any direct hits received as you yakjoust -and at least try to -


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