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Posted: Oct. 12 2007,15:24

OK ... someone is thinking of buying me a new yak for my birthday. No, it's not Tuna. Idol worship only goes so far with him.

I like my Mojo but I realize it's what some might consider not the best performing yak out there. I am looking for what everyone else is looking for .. speed, stability, storage and fishability. Oh and a nice Euro Trash babe as well.

I am going to need the speed considering my next voyage. Also the storage and the rest.

I been browsing the OK Prowler 15 Angler. Also been browsing the Hurricanes and the 14 looks cool. I don't think my giftor will spring for one of those South African jobees so ...

If someone was to ask what yak you want for your birthday and you were me (dream on Tuna) ... your reply would be?

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Posted: Oct. 12 2007,18:00

Im likin the looks of the Trident..stuck in fisheads glutius (sp):p
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Posted: Oct. 12 2007,18:13

...oh yeah..something is drawing me to the malibu mini X  ,  I like it fer fresh water ponds n canals...34'' wide 9.5' long..I could do cartwheels and not tip that sucker...GO TRIBE!
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Posted: Oct. 12 2007,19:10

Pier 17 in Jacksonville is overstocked with Kestral 140 SOT's and gave me a #### of a deal on a fiberglass/kevlar 38 pounder.  They also have a selection of the Kestral 140 SIK's.  Both Kestrals share the identical hull, thus, performance is the same.  They also have about the same storage fore and aft.

If weight is not an issue, then, other Yaks wil be fine. If you want to increase speed then decrease beam to reduce wetted surface, which reduces friction.

My guess is that the Kestrel (26 inch beam) is easily faster than the Mojo (~30 inch beam) with more than adequate stability.  You can check tested stability at the SEA KAYAKER internet site. The tests are based on static loads so that they can be compared from yak to yak, and are not influenced by opinion or experience of the yakker. The more experience yakker can increase secondary stability by knowing when to shift weight to enhance the righting moment.


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Posted: Oct. 12 2007,23:52

There is a demo days at okahelllleeeee park this weekend.

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Posted: Oct. 13 2007,04:52

As so well stated the Kestral is a very fast, seaworthy design with a true touring kayak hull.  No ordinary plastic SOT comes even remotely close in terms of performance.  Except one.

The Disco.

At one third the price, the Disco simply can't be beat.  At 50 lb. easily transported and loaded.  Moderate vee hull. Fast as runny snot.  Nice fast drain tankwell design with removeable netting. Grab lines bow and stern.  Sensible built in side handles for easy suitcase carry.  Dead quiet.  Tracks like a train in almost any wind and direction, but turns easily when you need to.

There is no better design in its class that is a natural for yakfishing.  Do yourself a favor - please test all the above - then test the Disco.  Kayak Jeff still manages to get some and permits on-water testing.

And I am more than willing to let you test mine or Sue Sea's....


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Posted: Oct. 13 2007,05:46

thanx guys .. you too Tuna.

I was gonna go up to Forest Hill and test some today but I will have to put that off til tomorrow.

capitan mon capitan ... I trust your knowledge in these areas. You can probably guess that my purchase of my Mojo was an impulse buy with zero research. There was a strange gleam in Jeff's eyes when I said "I'll take it". I feel no regret, I still love the Mojo and I understand "bidness is bidness". After my failed investment in Tall Man Shops of Tokyo this is nothing.

the Disco ... I was wondering .. I'm a big boy ... still the weapon of choice? I'm assuming they're hard to find. Maybe I'll go by Jeff's today.

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Posted: Oct. 13 2007,06:52

The Disco's recommended displacement is about 160 - 220 lb.  I'm right in the middle of that, love it.  And I can drive anything I want to.  At 220 you may experience a little backwash - but - (a) it's a water sport, (b) you can use the Disco's supplied scupper plugs and © the scuppers have a unique and effective venturi design.

Jeff is no spring chicken - more like a Thankgiving turkey - weighs around 220 and loves the Disco.

Further affiant sayeth naught...


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Posted: Oct. 13 2007,07:00

FISH -I FOUND THE DISCO A TAD TOO SMALL FOR ME

Went up to Jeff's open hacienda last year and gave the Disco a run on the lake.  Like almost everyone sez, it's a fairly quick, stable, and a boat that's pretty easy to tote.

But I found it seemed a lot smaller on me -one of the really good things, IMHO -about the Disco -again for me -is that you as much wear as sit on the boat, akin to the S-Pro (& I assume, RTM's legal knock-off, the Tempo).  I'm 6-0, 200+/-, and both boats are wet with me in them: the Disco drains well when under way, but puddles again when stopped, while the S-Pro keeps pretty much the same water along for the ride.

And the performance, while good, seemed somehow a tad sluggish to me.  It may be that I had way too elevated expectations based upon rave reviews coupled with more recent experience in SINKs, but I wasn't as impressed with it as some.  I found it a bit cramped, size-wise, it was surprisingly for me, annoyingly wet,  and the performance wasn't quite the revelation from which I'd hoped to be truly enlightened with.

Nonetheless, it is a good boat at a good price.  ANd you can get one from a pretty nice shop, as well...!

You rule out the best ones out there, the South African glass ones, so...

I'd still go with an S-Pro/Tempo.  This model is a good fishing platform: it's way quicker (or, at the same speed, paddles more efficiently and therefore more easily) than the majority of wider boats, it's rocker allows it greater maneuverability than many others, but it's still long enough to track fairly decently, and it's stable as all get-out.

As for me, I'm currently still searching for a used Impex Currituck, NDK Explorer LV, or Nigel Foster Legend possibly in carbon/kevlar especially for the latter two, (tho' those of you who know me & my paddling figger it'll be a half-hour before I crack that one's case wiiiide open, LOL!).  Came close a couple of times, but they were too far away and we've been too busy around the house for a road trip with holiday visitors coming in...

At any rate, get out to Okeeheelee this weekend and give a few of those boats on your list a side-by-side spin.  Then let us know which you chose -choose? -to


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Posted: Oct. 13 2007,08:17

thanx Frank, good info. I am 6' 2" 240. Of course it's mostly muscle and brain. Where Jeff is, in the capitan's words, turkey shaped, I more closely resemble an Atlas Rocket. (not to pick on Jeff but what the heck).

you know I just looked at the Dorado review with the 270 lb first timer in the yak ... it's very tempting to add fundage to the giftage and get what looks to be the ultimate fishin' yak.

Does anyone here actually own a Dorado or have paddling experience with one? If so, how do go about getting one? How about the real delivered cost at the end of the line? Also, I'm confused about Kaskazi and Pelican? ... two different companies right?

Anyway, I still am gonna go up to PB tomorrow and probably buy a Mojo version 2 .. lol.

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